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SUMMARY:In Dialogue: Featuring Jeff Conway with Paul DelGrosso
DESCRIPTION:In Dialogue\nFeaturing Jeff Conway with Paul DelGrosso\nBoundaries\, Enmeshment\, and the Undeveloped Self\nTuesday\, September 15\, 2026 · 12:00–1:00 PM ET · Held live inside the JYSTA community on Mighty\nModerated by Travis Atkinson\, LCSW\, VP of Media & Communications\, JYSTA\nOrganized by Rita Younan\, VP of Events\, JYSTA \nWhy Boundary Advice Fails With the Enmeshment / Undeveloped Self Schema\nEvery codependency book lands in one place. Detach\, set a limit\, stop managing everybody\, put yourself first. \nFor many people that advice works. Schema therapy explains why it fails here. \nGive it to a client with the enmeshment and undeveloped self schema and it runs six months without getting anywhere. \nShe follows it as she follows everything. The caretaking stops\, the distance shows up\, and nobody is home behind the boundary. \nA compliant surrenderer told to detach surrenders to that too. That is the enmeshment schema at work. \nThe instruction never reaches the deficit. She has borrowed preferences\, from you. \nThe Enmeshment/Undeveloped Self Schema Among the Early Maladaptive Schemas\nThe schema therapy reading of the undeveloped self starts elsewhere. \nAmong the early maladaptive schemas\, the enmeshment and undeveloped self schema sits in impaired autonomy\, not disconnection. \nThat placement carries the argument. The core needs left unmet were autonomy\, competence\, and having a self. Core emotional needs\, in Young’s terms. \nPlenty of these clients were loved intensely. Core emotional needs for love were met. \nThey got the intrusive\, role confused version\, from a parent who needed them. \nThe deficit the undeveloped self schema leaves is separateness\, and it shapes every relationship after it. \nWork it as a love deficit and a mental health clinician spends a year inside apparent progress. The enmeshment schema develops around autonomy\, so repair develops there. \nThe schema therapy model earns its keep against cognitive therapy. Cognitive therapy challenges the thought. Acceptance and commitment therapy makes room for the feelings. Neither builds a distinct identity where none could form. \nHow the Enmeshment Schema Develops in an Enmeshed Family System\nThe enmeshment / undeveloped self schema develops early\, inside an enmeshed family system where closeness is the only currency. Young children develop a sense of self by bumping into limits. Here there are none. \nExcessive emotional involvement runs both ways. The parent’s inner life is the weather in the house\, and the child learns to forecast those feelings. \nSeparateness reads as betrayal. Having your own preferences is an act of abandonment\, so you stop having them\, and stop noticing the feelings behind them. \nAttachment theory describes the bond\, and attachment style is part of the picture. Schema therapy names the unmet needs\, the core needs the family system never met. \nThis pattern has other names. Patricia Love called it the emotional incest syndrome\, where a parent’s love rules a child’s life. Kenneth Adams described parents who make their children partners. Co dependency covers the same ground\, a term that drifted from clinical psychology into popular use. \nThey are describing an enmeshed relationship from different angles. Schema therapy names the core needs underneath\, and Young’s model gives a therapist somewhere to put them. \nWhat the Enmeshment/Undeveloped Self Schema Looks Like in Session\nThe presentation is easy to miss. It looks nothing like distress. \nIn most relationships she is the easiest person in the room. She answers the question you meant\, not the one asked. \nAsk about her own preferences and the pause runs long. She will feel guilty for having any. \nAsk what she wants and she tells you what her mother wants\, or her partner\, or what she assumes you want. \nShe has a strong sense of other people’s feelings and a thin sense of her own. Ask her to describe her feelings and she reaches for a sense of somebody else’s. \nShe can describe her significant others in detail and her own identity in adjectives borrowed from them. The significant others in her life are vivid. Her personal identity is not. \nHer close relationships are fused or absent\, with little in between. An enmeshed relationship feels like safety until it does not\, and the next one repeats it. \nIn intimate relationships she goes quiet\, or goes missing\, and in extreme cases both in one year. Intimate relationships expose the undeveloped self schema fastest. \nFeeling smothered and feeling abandoned arrive together\, which confuses everyone. Both feelings are accurate in a person whose closest relationships have never left her intact. \nShe will say she has no sense of who she is. Take that literally. It is a report about self identity\, which is what the schema took. \nCoping Styles\, Core Beliefs\, and Core Needs in the Enmeshment Schema\nThe three coping styles of schema therapy show up in recognizable shapes. Each manages the same core beliefs and feelings differently. \nSurrender is common. She keeps the fusion going\, manages everyone else’s feelings\, and calls it being a good person. Her own feelings and needs go unexamined. \nAvoidance looks like distance without separateness. She moves cities\, ends the relationship\, and brings no personal identity to the next close relationships. \nOvercompensation looks like defiance. She refuses every request\, argues her own preferences loudly\, and is organized around somebody else. \nNone produces a separate identity. Each lives around the undeveloped self schema\, and each shapes her close relationships as they develop. \nThis is why over involvement and rigid withdrawal can be the same enmeshment and undeveloped self schema\, and why a client with years of boundary work can still arrive with no self in the room. \nWhat Boundaries Do Developmentally\, and How Attachment Style Forms\nJeff Conway built his December symposium around what boundaries do developmentally\, with clarity\, mutual respect\, and consistency as the parts. \nHe follows what forms in a child when one is missing\, how the enmeshment / undeveloped self schema develops\, and where repair happens. \nIn schema therapy a boundary is not a wall you build to keep someone out. \nIt is the edge that lets a person find where they end and relationships begin. \nA child who meets clear\, consistent\, respectful limits learns she is a separate person\, and that relationships survive her separateness. \nA child who never meets one carries no sense of being a distinct person\, and her attachment style forms around that absence. \nSo the boundary is not the goal of therapy. It is the instrument of therapy. \nLimited Reparenting and the Therapeutic Relationship in Schema Therapy\nRepair of the enmeshment schema runs through an odd piece of logic. \nSomeone whose separateness was dissolved by a caregiver recovers inside a new caregiving relationship\, recreating the original injury deliberately. \nLimited reparenting is the name for it\, putting the therapeutic relationship\, and the therapist’s boundaries\, at the centre of treatment. \nA limit held warmly\, then held again the next week\, until a client who has never met closeness that left her intact meets one. \nThis is where the therapist’s own schemas get loud. \nIf the therapist’s self sacrifice schema is active\, the limit gets soft. If emotional deprivation is active\, being needed can feel too good. Supervision helps. \nEmpathic connection and a held boundary are not in tension. They are one intervention\, and a therapeutic relationship that holds both offers something the client has not had. \nCore Needs\, Guilt\, and What Follows Separation\nThen come the feelings\, the schema’s own feelings. \nGuilt first\, and in the enmeshment schema these feelings are rarely subtle. \nSeparate\, and the punitive and demanding modes fire on cue. Solid work comes apart on those feelings. \nShe will feel guilty over a preference. She will feel responsible for her mother’s feelings before her mother expresses any. The feelings arrive faster than the thought that would justify them. \nThese feelings are not a sign the work went wrong. They are the enmeshment and undeveloped self schema defending itself\, driven by core beliefs about separateness. A therapist who expects the feelings names them before the client does. \nClinicians who know the enmeshment schema hold the line. Clinicians who read it as rupture back off\, and the client learns again that her separateness is too much. \nSchema Therapy Techniques for the Enmeshment / Undeveloped Self Schema\nInsight alone does not shift the enmeshment / undeveloped self schema. The schema was installed before language. \nExperiential techniques are how schema therapy reaches the undeveloped self schema. \nImagery rescripting lets the client explore the original family scene and meet an adult who does not need her. She can explore the feelings that belonged to that room\, apart from those in her relationships now. \nChair work separates the voices\, so the parent’s needs and her own stop sharing a seat. She explores each without collapsing into it. \nExperiential work gives her a place to say desires and feelings out loud before risking them in daily life. \nSmall assignments carry weight. Choose the restaurant. Name a film you want to see. Follow a particular interest nobody in your family shares. \nFor the schema people carry out of an enmeshed family\, these are the first evidence that being her own person does not end her relationships. \nWhat Jeff and Paul Will Cover on September 15\nJeff and Paul DelGrosso take the enmeshment / undeveloped self schema into conversation on September 15\, including where it complicates your own therapy relationships. \nExpect the clinical version rather than the online lecture. Where limits get tested\, and how to stay warm while separate. \nNew to the enmeshment and undeveloped self schema? Our full explainer covers why detaching does not work with the enmeshment and undeveloped self schema. \nHow to Take Part\n\nRegister in advance. This one is for JYSTA members. Registration is inside the JYSTA community on Mighty.\nWatch Jeff’s symposium session. We are opening his full symposium presentation to members on Mighty in the days ahead. Watch it before September 15.\nSend your questions. After watching\, send them to us and we will bring them into the room with Jeff and Paul.\n\nThe conversation joins the In Dialogue library afterward\, so members who cannot attend live get it. \nLearning Outcomes for Mental Health Clinicians\n\nA deeper understanding of relational boundaries and how they shape autonomy\nWays to establish healthy boundaries within the therapeutic relationship\nApproaches for managing boundary violations and repairing ruptures\nRecognition of how the enmeshment schema presents across close\, intimate\, and working relationships\nFamiliarity with experiential techniques that build a separate identity\n\nFurther Reading\nYoung\, J. E.\, Klosko\, J. S.\, & Weishaar\, M. E. Schema Therapy: A Practitioner’s Guide. Guilford Press. \nYoung\, J. E.\, & Klosko\, J. S. Reinventing Your Life: The Breakthrough Program to End Negative Behavior and Feel Great Again. \nLove\, P. The Emotional Incest Syndrome: What to Do When a Parent’s Love Rules Your Life. \nAdams\, K. M. Silently Seduced: When Parents Make Their Children Partners. Health Communications. \nMartin\, S. The Better Boundaries Workbook. New Harbinger Publications. \nEmotional Schema Therapy for Adults with Mental Health Problems: A Systematic Review. International Journal of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy\, 2024.
URL:https://www.schematherapyassociation.org/event/in-dialogue-featuring-jeff-conway-with-paul-delgrosso/
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